Comments on: “Secondary children universally miss primary school”. Really?!?

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By: Dave Stacey

Dave Stacey — Thu, 21 May 2009 23:01:43 +0000

Yeah, that kick started quite a discussion about the different approaches to discipline between different primaries, as well as between primary and secondary! :0)

By: John Sutton

John Sutton — Thu, 21 May 2009 21:25:00 +0000

I didn’t take it as such, more a case of reminding myself of the need make sure that the discipline of 140 characters doesn’t lead one to over simplify complex issues. It’s great that you’ve got the space to pick up something like this and just explore it. My favourite comment: “You don’t have to go to the head if you get into trouble.”

By: Dave Stacey

Dave Stacey — Thu, 21 May 2009 20:24:29 +0000

@ John – Certainly didn’t mean to accuse you of putting words into someones mouth! I’d love to know the source of his research as well. Thanks for kick starting a very interesting discussion with my students!

@ Guy – Agreed. Our transition process gets very positive feedback.

That’s not to say we don’t have lots to learn from primaries. One of the most useful things I did last year was spend a morning in a primary class just watching what was going on, and another couple of days in different classes running workshops on how to use their macs. Loads of food for thought about how much responsibility the pupils had, and the way learning was structured that I’ve tried to replicate to an extent in my classrooms. I’d love it if every secondary school teacher could do that (and vis versa), I think we’d really start to make some progress on closing the transition gap.

By: John Sutton

John Sutton — Thu, 21 May 2009 18:11:10 +0000

I don’t want to be accused of putting words into someone’s mouth, so I’m not sure if Prof. Heppell actually used the word “universally”, my tweet is obviously an interpretation of what he said. Nevertheless the gist is there and he was definitely suggesting that most children looked back at primary school wistfully and missed the learning that went on there. I can’t quote a source for his research though.

By: Guy Shearer

Guy Shearer — Thu, 21 May 2009 14:52:57 +0000

Absolutely! We filmed interviews with 20 Y7 students about the transition to secondary and they universally had positive things to say and didn’t express regret at all! http://curriculum.fliggo.com/video/yy9pglu5

Pah! I think you’re right that he was taken out of context